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LOVE THE SINNER..............HATE THE SIN





This page is for those who agree with the fact that pre-marigable sex is wrong, and that being gay is wrong, and all the other stuff. But it is also for those who believe that you should lover the sinner despite their ways, but you should hate their sins.


Fellow Lovers of Sinners Memebers Page

Sister Sites

Badges for Sinners

Advice

Sinning Sites We Love

Good Passages from the Bible





THE STRAIGHT WAY
Please join that wiki if you agree with it's message.






LET ME MAKE ONE THING PERFECTLY CLEAR!



We do not HATE the sinners! We try to love them like God loves them despite their sins like he loves us.



Let me make another thing clear.

This is a wiki for those who agree with me and POC's views, not for those who have different views and come to bother us with theirs. It is your opion and I will respect that.


AND PLEASE BEFORE YOU DECIDE TO WRITE A COMMENT ABOUT GAY PEOPLE, PLEASE DO US AND YOURSELF A FAVOR AND "READ THIS WIKI, BEFORE COMMENTING ON WHAT BAD CHRISTIANS WE ARE OR WHATEVER NASTY THINGS YOU HAVE TO SAY TO US!" Yeah and 1 more thing, if you leave a rude and mean comment to us we will ignore it and I will personally delete it.




When you join please add yourself to the Fellow Lovers of Sinners Memebers Page Thanks!


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Daniel 6 : 27 'Trust'

"He deliveret and rescueth, and he worketh signs and wonders in heaven and in earth,
who hath delivered Daniel from the power of the lions."


This is a painting I made for a youth church service.
It's about trusting God, we must trust Him in all the things we do, even when were in trouble.
Like Daniel did.

This painting is expressing my fealings very well, thats why it's special for me.

[hji]


Owners are [Blaze the Nameless] and [Leelo]

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2004-04-06 [Robin]: Hey! This is a cool page!

2004-04-06 [Blaze the Nameless]: Thank you Robin!

2004-04-06 [Leelo]: Uh? How do i get the badges on my page? Do I copy and paste the picture?

2004-04-06 [Blaze the Nameless]: No, you right click them, go to properties, copy them and but them in <img:>

2004-04-06 [mywolfalways]: I'm joining this page simply because I agree with the "Love the sinner, hate the sin". I'm uncertain of why you have a problem with the nude'y nude contest. The contest is to show the beauty of the human form. As it says in the rules, it's not a porn contest.

2004-04-06 [Blaze the Nameless]: Oh......................I didn't read that. I'm an idiot!

2004-04-06 [Blaze the Nameless]: Oh btw can you all add yourself to the member page?

2004-04-06 [Mackenzie]: did u hear that they have a problem with some chinese custom that involves eating off of a colledge age girls nude body? I kind of do too...

2004-04-06 [Blaze the Nameless]: Well of course I do! Thats gross!

2004-04-07 [mywolfalways]: I don't mean to be rude, but you guys are being very close-minded. I don't exactly approve of it, but that's a cultural thing. 

2004-04-07 [Blaze the Nameless]: What do you mean close-minded? I'm not closing off gays. I'll still love them but not give into their sin.

2004-04-07 [Tupile]: we're not condemning gays ourselves... just trying to warn them that God will!!!

2004-04-07 [Blaze the Nameless]: Ohhhhhhhhhhh! I get it now!

2004-04-07 [Paul Doyle]: Umm, doesn't this page simply perpetuate the ugly stereotype that Christian fundamentalists pretend to be your friends, just so they can convert you to their religion, and get brownie points from the pastors for doing so? Think about that. Most people who are on ET for a legitimate reason (art, writing, ET maintenance, RPG'ers) are smart enough to see through ploys like this immediately.

2004-04-07 [Tupile]: that was a rather hurtful comment paul. after our debates on the discussion wiki, you should full well know that is only a stereotype

2004-04-07 [Blaze the Nameless]: What? I'm lost and confused.

2004-04-07 [Athene Noctua]: Yes, and he said it was a stereotype. 

2004-04-07 [Blaze the Nameless]: It did sound hurtful. :( Where can a girl feel loved?

2004-04-07 [Athene Noctua]: Yes, religious debate can offend people. Especially when there are a bunch of Christians saying that being gay is sinning (due to personal beliefs). Gays get offended. :)

2004-04-07 [Blaze the Nameless]: Did I offend anyone?

2004-04-07 [Athene Noctua]: It depends on what you said. :) 

2004-04-07 [Blaze the Nameless]: Well i don't know what I did!

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: Well, this wiki-page is offensive to GLBT people and their supporters. :)

2004-04-08 [Paul Doyle]: I'm sorry this all has to happen. Folks, let's not let this place get like the holy war before the people there changed their mission statement? I don't mean to intrude, but I hate to see this kind of stuff happening ANYWHERE on ET. That's all I have to say.

2004-04-08 [mywolfalways]: [Paul Doyle], please check the links I have pasted. You may enjoy reading them. They are about what got lost in the translation of the Bible. Especially concerning gays.

2004-04-08 [mywolfalways]: Anything that involves religion or politics is going to offend somebody. If you are going to run a page involving either of the two subjects, get used to offending people.

2004-04-08 [mywolfalways]: Close-minded was referring to the Chinese custom, BTW.

2004-04-08 [mywolfalways]: I was going to join this page because I have had the philosophy that I dislike people's actions, but not the people themselves. Despite my agreement with the title of the page, I realized that this page is promoting dislike toward certain groups. Although I am a Catholic, I am a pretty liberal one. I believe that sometimes we cannot help who we fall in love with. I have concluded through my own thoughts that it is not my business what goes on behind closed doors. I'm not interested in "straight" people's sex lives so why should I be concerned with "gay" people's sex lives?

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: Thank you [mywolfalways]. Disliking people's actions but liking the person goes far past religion as well. :) But in this case, the mentality is using religion, and like you said, is promoting dislike towards certain groups. :)

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: *sigh* Can you people stoping arguing on my wiki? I might as well delete it! Thanks alot! *angry*

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: I never said I hated them! This is my belief! I belive that you need a love a person dispite their wrong doings so if you want to talk about my page just go somewhere else!

2004-04-08 [Leelo]: Blaz Jons, You did not, and I repeat did not offend anyone. They are just upset that we have the courage to actually make a wiki that is like this

2004-04-08 [Leelo]: Just bear in mind, that we are going to get comments of the offensive kind, but that'll be ok. So don't worry about it.

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: Okay, we'll just ingore them.

2004-04-08 [Leelo]: Oh yeah, don't delete this wiki, cuz it will just tell them that they've won. Hey Sharpline added himself to this wiki. I forgot where though^^

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: LOL!

2004-04-08 [Leelo]: ^^

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: [Leelo], who are you to say who was and was not offended? You can talk for yourself personally, but saying saying that [Blaze the Nameless] didn't offend anyone is inappropiate. You cannot speak for me, or anyone other than YOURSELF.

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: Sorry Mrs. Literal! If you dislike my page then please leave!

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: When you make a page like this, you better be prepared for people who don't like it, and voice their opinions on it. When you enter of realm of politics and religion, there will always be people who don't agree with you.

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: "I would like all of those who dislike my page to please leave me alone and quit bugging me about my beliefs!" If you want that, then perhaps you shouldn't make your intolerant beliefs towards GLBT people public.

2004-04-08 [Leelo]: Look, she meant people like you, who can't leave well enough alone. We voice our opinion deeply, like you people who voice your opinion about being gay and all that crap. Ya'll voice ya'll's so deeply and get offended when people don't agree with you, and then you go to people like us who believe in what's right and go and offend us just because we don't agree. That is what she meant. And yes this wiki is going to stay up wether you peolple like it or not.

2004-04-08 [Paul Doyle]: Just don't go out of your way to harrass different-minded Elftowners with mean messages, if they don't agree with you. Just keep it civil, please. I'm putting this message on the Wicca page, too, BTW, though if it's deleted by either wiki-owners, you'll be doing yourselves big disservices.

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: Sorry if I'm harassing you so will you please leave? This is a place to love sinners not to aruge and bicker. If you have anything more opions thats fine but it has to be about sinners and their sins.

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: i am a friend of passionofchrist

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: Oh..................you haven't said anything so far and you're a friend so you can stay.

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: thanks, i just wanted to be welcomed by you all before i started to talkall b

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: Well I'm glad we have another memeber

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: thanks

2004-04-08 [Leelo]: Yeah, I forgot to menchin her to you^^ She's a good friend.

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: Thats good!

2004-04-08 [Leelo]: ^^

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: ^-^

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: Hooray! Another nice person!

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: thanks you other nice person

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: Hooray! Someone thinks I'm nice!

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: you r

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: Thank you very much!

2004-04-08 [Leelo]: Yep everyone here I think is nice, but I haven't heard anything out of Sharpline, he added himself^^

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: welcome

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: I know you told me.

2004-04-08 [Leelo]: I wonder where he is*scratches head* Ah well I'll just tell him to make a comment, so that we all can get to know him and each other.

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: who?

2004-04-08 [Leelo]: [Sharpline] He's very nice^^

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: ok

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: "And yes this wiki is going to stay up wether you peolple like it or not." If it gets out of control, and too offensive, it won't.

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: This Sharpline guess I'm guessing.

2004-04-08 [Leelo]: Well we're not offending anyone, so if you don't like it you don't have to coment or whatever else.

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: yeah, what they said *runs behind them*

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: As I said before, you cannot say you aren't offending anyone. You are offending me. :)

2004-04-08 [Leelo]: Well it is my beliefs and if you don't believe or go with it you can get over it. I shall express mine opinion and you can express yours. Either way it's not going to change anything^^

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: I don't expect it to. I know my opinions can offend people, and I express them anyway.

2004-04-08 [Leelo]: Yeah same here

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: It is what happens whenever you talk to someone about religion, politics, and the like. :)

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: yeah, you r right

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: Good, then. We have reached an accord. *has a Pirates of the Caribbean moment*

2004-04-08 [Leelo]: Yep well , we all have the freedom of speach, you can do with it what you want

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: huh? what p.t.c moment?

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: Mostly. :)

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: The "accord" moment...when Sparrow is talking with Barbosa. :)

2004-04-08 [Leelo]: ok

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: oh yeah

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: I'm back! What did I miss?

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: n/r

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: You missed some more debate. :)

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: Okay i was just wondering.

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: Alright. :)

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: So...................................

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: ok then......

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: So...what? :)

2004-04-08 [Blaze the Nameless]: Has everything been straigthen out?

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: Depends on what you mean by that. :D

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: what do you mean?

2004-04-08 [Athene Noctua]: "Straighten out"

2004-04-08 [dani california 311]: ok, i think everything is

2004-04-09 [Athene Noctua]: Me as well. :)

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Back! Srry, I was sign off for a bit.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: its ok

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Thats good.

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: yeah

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: You know what I'm going to do?

2004-04-09 [dani california 311]: no,what?

2004-04-09 [Blaze the Nameless]: Become a reader at Kissing Girls

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